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What I should have said in my last post was that , having been involved in reformat and new rules before, I apprecieate the ammount of hard thankless work someone has done on our behalf. Thank you who ever did it.New bits tend to slip under the radar when these things get done.My present copy of the rules is dated 2003 so may be slightly out of date.

Sam



Sorry, but the rules are quite clear. E 4.4 states what materials the rudder, stock and tiller may be made of. The stock and tiller may be of wood, GRP or aluminium, while the blade may be of wood, plywood, foam, GRP and resin.




The centreboard and rudder are specifically described as appendages, which in my book does not make them fittings. Neither are permanently attached to the boat only the gudgeon and pintle on the hull to support the rudder I would see as fittings.




Remember that the Albacore class rules are closed i.e. you shall not, unless it states specifically that you can. The Class Rules should be read in conjunction with the Equipment Rules of Sailing from ISAF which provide the various definitions. The rules are available in PDF format from ISAF on this link www.sailing.org/downloads/committees/ERS_2009-2012_Complete.pdf



Although this helps clarify things in the main - I have to admit that there are still areas open to interpretation - so still room for some fun and debate!

Prescripsions for measurers used to refer to "Fittings which are permanantly attached to the hull by bolts, screws or rivets" as being part of hull weight so the compass mounting is weighed but the compass is not. As far as rudders are concerned only the balde is measureable in the Albacore class and as no mention of the stock or tiller is made I would assume we had a free hand. The rudder stock in its strictest sense " fits" onto the hull to carry the foil and therefore must be a "fitting" As the rules allow "Exotic materials" for fittings (14.8 in my book) perhaps we should all charge out and buy Winder carbon stocks I can see nothing that precludes them !!!

I wait with bated breath to be shot down on this one. Please dont bring the spirit of the rules up again. There isnt one

Sam

Would fittings be the bits & pieces bolted to the boat as if it were to be weighed?

Centreboards & rudders inclusive of stock, tiller & extension are / can be removed for weighing?

if its not a fitting what is it? I would contend that under the rather liberal interpretation applied by the Enterprises the jib stick is also a fitting. It is refered to im my rules ( NOT current) as a "Headsail pole" I believe that the IYRU decided that jibsticks were spars but that was before it became the ISAF and before aysemetrics and setting on the same side as the main . The goal posts may have moved. Do we need

clarification. As for c/f tiller extensions at that price for 2 or 3 ounces that busts you can keep em

Sam

Not sure how you describe a tiller extension, it's not a fitting in my book, but a tiller extension. Fittings are the small items e.g cleats & blocks etc?

Item E 4.4

(d) The tiller extension materials are optional.

What do you think?

If a tiller extension is a "fitting" then there is no change (see current rule 14.8).

The question is: Is a tiller extension a fitting or not?

Barney used a carbon Tiller extention at the worlds this year...!

Carbon tiller extension? I'm off down the chandlery

Just found another couple of typos - well what else can you do on a cold wet Sunday afternoon...?



Section D Drain port distance from outside of shell should be minimum 25mm not maximum. Same for drain port closing device - minimum of 15mm not maximum

Thanks for the feedback. Mike says:

Oops and many thanks, well spotted. Michael

Must have been written especially for us pond skaters!

Perhaps a more serious typo (I really hope it IS a typo!):



Section C8.3 Rudder dimensions now states that the maximum distance of the fully lowered rudder from the hull datum point is 550mm. Under section 8 of the old rules, 550mm is the MINIMUM.




Either we all need new rudders or this needs correcting ASAP.

Hi



Just noticed a typo on the Alb rules on the front or first page - 'an national class' should read 'a national class'




thanks

When is the next edition of Alive due out?..am I still eligible to receive and if not I`ll get a cheque off to you asap!